Finally, some good old honest grassroots investigation into what many of us have been onto from the beginning. I was in attendance when the MVOC was being concieved, I could sense something was wrong. These people really have a socialist agenda. They are really about taking over politically and their vehicle is to rally the masses and brainwash them into forming voting blocks. I can tell you more about this, call me at 330 707 9688
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1. UFCW Union- This is the union well known throughout the Mahoning Valley for boycotting Henry Nemenz IGA and Save-A-Lot Food Stores. This "wonderful union" forced Nemenz to shut down two of his area stores: one in Hubbard and one in Poland. In my eyes the UFCW is an extremist group with a radical agenda to take down nonunion business in the Mahoning Valley. Back in July 2009, I wrote an article attacking this radical union for trying to destroy Henry Nemenz and his local grocery stores. Of course few, if any politicians have come to speak out against this union and their agenda.
2. SEIU Union- This is arguably the most corrupt union in America today. Their leaders have been charged in political fraud cases, illegal unionization drives, and they played a role in the Rob Blagojevich corruption scandal.. The SEIU is spending $150 million dollars to get ObamaCare passed. This organization receives $6.6 million dollars annually from the Federal Government, which does not include other money they may have received in the Stimulus package.
After closely studying their associations and their agenda, I truly believe the Mahoning Valley Organizing Collaborative could be the local operating arm of ACORN, the most corrupt organization in America today. As you all know, ACORN has been charged in voter fraud cases in a number of states. They are under investigation in a total of eighteen states as of last September, including Ohio (that number may be into the twenties now). Of course people will attack me for connecting the two groups together, but this article is only a hypothetical analysis of the potential connection between each group. I am not saying that there IS a connection, I am trying to say there COULD be a connection.
What bothers me about the MVOC is the following:
1. The group had three members (Ian Beniston, Stephen Flannery and Heather McMahon) review the $32.4 million HUD grant that scored very low marks across the board by HUD officials.
2. The MVOC had a vested interest in the HUD grant. It appears that the group would have received some money to rehab houses in Youngstown and Warren.
3. After the Mahoning Valley received no money from HUD, the MVOC held a press conference to speak out against the HUD's decision. As you can see on this video, just about every Democratic politician from the Mahoning Valley was at that press conference. This leads me to believe the MVOC is working hand and hand with local politicians to push their agenda.
4. They come across as an independent group, yet are associated with left wing groups and are clearly pushing a left wing agenda. They are in DC this week to push for the passage of ObamaCare. Considering every poll out there today is calling for ObamaCare to be scrapped and for Congress to start from scratch, the MVOC is showing their true colors pushing for the passage of this disastrous bill.
5. Congressmen Tim Ryan may have some connections with the group. His press secretary is Heather McMahan, who is one of the three people from the MVOC that was involved in the review of the HUD grant. When the Vindicator asked her to comment on the situation, all she could say was "no comment." Another one of Tim Ryan's former interns, Allison Kukla, was an intern at the MVOC during the same time she was with Tim Ryan: January 2009-May 2009. It's one thing to intern at each place at different times, but Kukla interned at each place at the same time. That leads me to believe the MVOC could have been giving her marching orders to get stuff passed through Tim Ryan, but we'll never know for sure.
6. My biggest concern is that this group actually has an influence over our local Democratic politicians and believe it or not has a role in the government of the City of Youngstown! I'd love for Mayor Jay Williams to explain why this community organizing group was actually allowed to review the HUD grant in its final stages? If they are an independent group, they should not have been allowed to play a role in the HUD process. It is very irresponsible of Jay Williams to allow outside groups like the MVOC to be involved in something of this magnitude.
If I were mayor, groups like these with their own agenda's would not have any influence within the city government. They may have the best interest of the area at heart, but considering they are partners with the UFCW and SEIU unions, I have a hard time believing they are an untainted group.
What say you?
| March 08, 2010
If you live in the Mahoning Valley you have probably heard of the Mahoning Valley Organizing Collaborative (MVOC), a group of community organizers right here in our area. At first glance they seem to be an independent group of local activists trying to improve neighborhoods in our community, but a deeper look into their partners shows a troubling line of associations that everyone should be aware:1. UFCW Union- This is the union well known throughout the Mahoning Valley for boycotting Henry Nemenz IGA and Save-A-Lot Food Stores. This "wonderful union" forced Nemenz to shut down two of his area stores: one in Hubbard and one in Poland. In my eyes the UFCW is an extremist group with a radical agenda to take down nonunion business in the Mahoning Valley. Back in July 2009, I wrote an article attacking this radical union for trying to destroy Henry Nemenz and his local grocery stores. Of course few, if any politicians have come to speak out against this union and their agenda.
2. SEIU Union- This is arguably the most corrupt union in America today. Their leaders have been charged in political fraud cases, illegal unionization drives, and they played a role in the Rob Blagojevich corruption scandal.. The SEIU is spending $150 million dollars to get ObamaCare passed. This organization receives $6.6 million dollars annually from the Federal Government, which does not include other money they may have received in the Stimulus package.
After closely studying their associations and their agenda, I truly believe the Mahoning Valley Organizing Collaborative could be the local operating arm of ACORN, the most corrupt organization in America today. As you all know, ACORN has been charged in voter fraud cases in a number of states. They are under investigation in a total of eighteen states as of last September, including Ohio (that number may be into the twenties now). Of course people will attack me for connecting the two groups together, but this article is only a hypothetical analysis of the potential connection between each group. I am not saying that there IS a connection, I am trying to say there COULD be a connection.
What bothers me about the MVOC is the following:
1. The group had three members (Ian Beniston, Stephen Flannery and Heather McMahon) review the $32.4 million HUD grant that scored very low marks across the board by HUD officials.
2. The MVOC had a vested interest in the HUD grant. It appears that the group would have received some money to rehab houses in Youngstown and Warren.
3. After the Mahoning Valley received no money from HUD, the MVOC held a press conference to speak out against the HUD's decision. As you can see on this video, just about every Democratic politician from the Mahoning Valley was at that press conference. This leads me to believe the MVOC is working hand and hand with local politicians to push their agenda.
4. They come across as an independent group, yet are associated with left wing groups and are clearly pushing a left wing agenda. They are in DC this week to push for the passage of ObamaCare. Considering every poll out there today is calling for ObamaCare to be scrapped and for Congress to start from scratch, the MVOC is showing their true colors pushing for the passage of this disastrous bill.
5. Congressmen Tim Ryan may have some connections with the group. His press secretary is Heather McMahan, who is one of the three people from the MVOC that was involved in the review of the HUD grant. When the Vindicator asked her to comment on the situation, all she could say was "no comment." Another one of Tim Ryan's former interns, Allison Kukla, was an intern at the MVOC during the same time she was with Tim Ryan: January 2009-May 2009. It's one thing to intern at each place at different times, but Kukla interned at each place at the same time. That leads me to believe the MVOC could have been giving her marching orders to get stuff passed through Tim Ryan, but we'll never know for sure.
6. My biggest concern is that this group actually has an influence over our local Democratic politicians and believe it or not has a role in the government of the City of Youngstown! I'd love for Mayor Jay Williams to explain why this community organizing group was actually allowed to review the HUD grant in its final stages? If they are an independent group, they should not have been allowed to play a role in the HUD process. It is very irresponsible of Jay Williams to allow outside groups like the MVOC to be involved in something of this magnitude.
If I were mayor, groups like these with their own agenda's would not have any influence within the city government. They may have the best interest of the area at heart, but considering they are partners with the UFCW and SEIU unions, I have a hard time believing they are an untainted group.
What say you?
Comments (31)
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|65.185.78.xxx |2010-03-09 15:42:42 J.RUDOLPH - rudy56I do not believe in"PORK",because the government just takes more than it needs and gives it back so we can say thank you.Timmy Ryan who REALLY HELPS this area got(in millions for 2009)5.6-akron,3.0-washington,3.0-canton,2.5- westlake&st.albans,2.0-ravenna,6.8-columbus,9.5-other,2.0-no town- AND FINALLY YOUNGSTOWN 4.4. WOW does he really know how to help!(Figures courtesy of GovTrack.us)
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|65.185.78.xxx |2010-03-09 15:50:47 J.RUDOLPH - re: rudy56By the way Mr.Novatny why are you carrying the water for Timmy,as he even tried to make out as though he is against abortion,but in reality he supports the HC bill which allows for federal dollars to be used for it?J.RUDOLPH wrote:I do not believe in"PORK",because the government just takes more than it needs and gives it back so we can say thank you.Timmy Ryan who REALLY HELPS this area got(in millions for 2009)5.6-akron,3.0-washington,3.0-canton,2.5- westlake&st.albans,2.0-ravenna,6.8-columbus,9.5-other,2.0-no town- AND FINALLY YOUNGSTOWN 4.4. WOW does he really know how to help!(Figures courtesy of GovTrack.us)
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|143.231.249.xxx |2010-03-09 16:32:04 JoeJust curious, but as a 20 year old, what experience do you have with unions that makes you an expert?
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Joe,
With all due respect where did I state I was an expert on unions? I simply identified the issues I have with the UFCW and SEIU union. I do not know how anybody can stand behind the UFCW's War against Henry Nemenz. It is vicious and wrong on so many fronts.
If you cared to click on the article I linked on the UFCW paragraph above, you will see I made mention of another union that terrorized the Waffle House owner, Doug Miller, locally. That man had planned to put up 25 Waffle House's in the Mahoning Valley by 2022, but after the hell the unions put him through for hiring non-union labor, those plans were destroyed in no time!
Those are just two examples I found that back up my outrage of some of the unions in our area. If I took the time to research this area's history, I am sure I can find plenty more Joe.
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|65.185.78.xxx |2010-03-09 18:21:27 Anonymous - rudy56Hey Joe....Just do some reading EXAMPLE: SEIU(don't tax us on our health care plans just everyone else-ALSO they love the idea of"Card Check"
.ACORN tried to throw away records of what they did prior to an investigation in California.Joe just look for it.
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|64.18.47.xxx |2010-03-09 18:53:51 chousteauDoes it really matter?
Conservatives are out to torch any scapegoat they can. The world isn't as bad as they say it is. Does everyone have to have a secret agenda? For every corrupt group on the left, there is one on the right. For every evil democrat, one republican and so on.
My prediction is that republicans take over by 2012 and the populist get mad at them because "what have you done for me lately" kicks in. Democrats take over in 2016 and we keep repeating the pattern for the next 200 years. Like old times.
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|65.25.44.xxx |2010-03-09 18:55:29 Ron EiselsteinThe MVOC is the local ACORN but they have been trying to distance themselves from it. Everything you have uncovered is dead on but you need to read how their big pie-in-the-sky was the county landbank scheme. This landbank would blow eminent domain back to the rice patties. For instance if you lost your job and were behind in prop. taxes, they can grab your property after 45 days and place it in the landbank governed by...you guessed it, socialist running the landbank. This landbank would be exempt from taxes and any liabilities from bldg. code violations. There's more, they will be the recipient of all late fees.
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|65.25.44.xxx |2010-03-09 19:14:36 Ron EiselsteinMike, As a young up an coming leader, you need to get on the council agenda and formally ask the City your questions about why D'Avignon was in bed with the MVOC for the HUD grant. Even though they will squirm out of it at least you will have it recorded. I know, that there are those on council who know what the MVOC are really about and abhor them.
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|24.101.139.xxx |2010-03-09 23:25:11 Steve NovotnyOk maybe I'm missing something here. So you did or did not find evidence that ACORN is affiliated with MVOC? Because all you've managed to do is list some vague personal gripes you have and come off as a conspiracy theorist. A 4 month spy intern sneaking in federal legislation??? SERIOUSLY??? It's nice to see that Mr. Eiselstein has chosen you as his new buddy. When you go before council, ask them about the "investors" that Ron is in bed with, such as William Downie. Seems to me that he's frustrated that city officials see beyond his smoke and mirrors. The bulk of the MVOC's partners include local church groups, many of them christian and catholic congregations. I wonder what they would think about the slanderous "conservative voice of the valley" suggesting their actions are corrupt.
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The only trace I found of the Catholic Church involved is this group is Brian Corbin, the Executive Director of Catholic Charities. The local Catholic Church IS involved in ACTION, a faith-based group that unites all the religious within the city to work to solve various problems within the city limits. That is a group I can support.
Steve, how can I support a group partnered with two unions I have major issues with, as well as a group with a left-wing agenda? Slanderous... Steve do you see the question mark at the end of the title of this article? I am leaving it out there as a possibility that the MVOC is a front group of ACORN. I will continue to do research to prove or disprove this tentative hypothesis.
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|24.101.139.xxx |2010-03-10 11:58:07 Steve NovotnyDid you call either the MVOC or ACTION to determine if there is any level of collaboration there? Do you have a complete list of all the groups and organizations that have VOLUNTARILY partnered with the MVOC? If you did your homework, you would have learned that these two union groups are linked to MVOC through the Ohio Organizing Collaborative, of which, the group Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good is also a member. I don't know very much about the SEIU, and I am in complete agreement with you that what the UFCW did to Nemenz was absolutely ridiculous. And I'm all for accountability and independent research as I have done the same, but the problem I have with many of your posts is that they are mostly all flash and no substance. I've said this to you before. Try to get all the facts (even if they don't fall in line with your own agenda and political ideology) before making statements like "I truly believe the Mahoning Valley Organizing Collaborative is the local operating arm of ACORN, the most corrupt organization in America today." Without any evidence (like county court cases or property tax records for example...) such a statement IS slanderous.
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|65.25.44.xxx |2010-03-10 08:12:30 Ron EiselsteinMr. Novotney, when you grow up, I hope you learn not to kick a man when he is down. The story of Mr. Downie is not over yet, go to the council meeting on the 18th if you REALLY want to know the truth. Everyone knows how corrupt the local politicians have been and now you join them. You are engaging in a waste of taxpayer money with this deconstruction fiasco and of course you do not want honest debate about it. You better watch your step with me, with your allegations. If you have a problem with me other than deliquent property taxes like the entire city, say it!
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|65.25.44.xxx |2010-03-10 08:41:06 Ron EiselsteinMike, keep up the good fact finding, it is getting to them and they are coming out from under the rocks to fight to keep the pork coming. Notice that one thing in common with them is that they all suck on the public trough. Novotny, is living off this pork grant he got from US and he acts like he doesn't know who his boss is. The MVOC as ACORN, they are sucking on the non-profit fat, but that will dry up especially now that hard working Americans see now what the entitled are doing. They all needed that HUD money for power, fortunately we are broke so no more pork for these guys so their power dries up.
Remember, there are more of us than them and you are going to see grassroots rising, the local landlord assn. is getting tired of what has always gone on here. the tide is turning when from the sweat of thy brow thow shall eat.
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|193.77.149.xxx |2010-03-10 13:18:03 GeorgeMr. Steve Novotny,
I have noticed a trend with you. Every single one of your comments on this site, Vindy.com, and the other forum are very negative and filled with anger. Why is that?
This young man obviously took the time to do his homework on this subject. Even if this group is not affiliated with ACORN, it is more than apparent they have the same agenda as ACORN. They are trying to receive federal dollars to keep themselves up and running. They are pushing for the passage of Obama's unpopular health care bill. They have a pretty profound agenda from what I have read as well.
If this group is no affiliated with ACORN, then why do they not come out and deny Mr. Metzinger's claims? Until then, the points outlined above lead me to believe they very well could be a front group of ACORN.
We can have an honest debate Mr. Novotny if you would come across in a more calm and collective tone.
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|64.18.47.xxx |2010-03-10 13:18:05 Ron EiselsteinI think I need to notify City council and find out why Novotny is spending so much time blogging! Hell, he is on all the time when he should be working on deconstruction. Maybe an investigation and it seems he is making statements representing the City, is he the representative? Novotny, tell us about your progress on deconstruction, we want a report? YOU are not paid for your rhetoric on anything else during work hours.
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|64.18.47.xxx |2010-03-10 13:28:04 Ron EiselsteinYou also may want to look at Defend Youngstown and how they are trying to build up a following that follows the "prolitariat revolution." They invite you into their fold, but as soon as you start raising questions, you are banished with mudslinging. George has a strong point, why will the MVOC not debate?
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|72.23.104.xxx |2010-03-10 15:14:30 chousteau - re:Ron Eiselstein wrote:You also may want to look at Defend Youngstown and how they are trying to build up a following that follows the "prolitariat revolution." They invite you into their fold, but as soon as you start raising questions, you are banished with mudslinging. George has a strong point, why will the MVOC not debate?
Ohh no everyone has an agenda!!!!
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|24.96.101.xxx |2010-03-11 12:30:43 smith6714 - MetzDon't finish your articles end with "What say you?" It is awkward lol.
Plus Florida is a lot warmer then home.
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|65.25.44.xxx |2010-03-12 09:03:37 Ron EiselsteinNovotney, everytime you put your foot in your mouth, it is going to cost you with me. I already complained to one councilman about all this time spent on blogging and that you are making representations for the city, on paper. I will continue to complain to more of them as I bump into them. So do your job and tell us how deconstruction is going to be green and save us tax dollars?
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|99.144.113.xxx |2010-03-12 11:41:37 Steve Novotny"You better watch your step with me"
"it is going to cost you with me"
WOW. You sound like quite the thug. I'm glad you decided to put your threats in writing with your name attached. I'll print them out for future reference.
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|72.23.104.xxx |2010-03-12 13:32:12 chousteau - re:Ron Eiselstein wrote:Novotney, everytime you put your foot in your mouth, it is going to cost you with me. I already complained to one councilman about all this time spent on blogging and that you are making representations for the city, on paper. I will continue to complain to more of them as I bump into them. So do your job and tell us how deconstruction is going to be green and save us tax dollars?
Everyone is out to get you Ron, shame. Sounds like you get a rise out of provoking people and making spectacles. You claim that the government has an agenda, but clearly just after a simple google search of your name, you have an agenda.
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|65.25.44.xxx |2010-04-12 20:45:05 Ron EiselsteinInteresting update about the MVOC. I bumped into a City intern today and he informs me that many in the City are becoming suspicious of the MVOC because many of the leaders have ties to Chicago community organizing. My gut tells me that private funding will soon dry up for these people.
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